The mastermind behind Chaotically Mindful. I'm here to ensure you never get mansplained about SEO again while reminding you that you CAN be found in search without compromising your values.
September 15, 2026
I was doing an SEO check-in recently and from the first five minutes I could tell it was going to be a tense one.
Now, this was not the person I worked with throughout the project, but someone I hadn’t spoken to. We had already gone a few rounds about ‘how people search’.
I would say, “well, most people don’t search that way” (i.e. how many times do you physically time ‘near me?). To which she would say, “well, I do.”
Until I got out of defensive mode and gave the honest SEO answer: we all search differently. We’re all using the same internet in slightly different ways.
But then I got to the part I was really excited about. They were sitting in position 3 on page 1 for a keyword that they hadn’t even been indexed for 6 months ago when we started.
It’s not a close-up-the-books-we’re-done-here moment but it is a yay-what-we’re-doing-is-working-so-do-more-of-that moment.
But she immediately cut me off.
Her – “I looked that keyword up yesterday and had to scroll forever to find us. Why are we so low if we’re in position 3?”
Me – “… are you talking about the AI overview at the top? And then the sponsored posts below that? And then organic below that?”
Her – “yeah”
Me – “Well, that’s just how Google is laid out. I can’t change the order. You’re still in position 3 on page 1 which is good.”
Her – “Well, no one is even going to scroll down that far so what’s the point?”
Me – “I think they will. Organic results are still important, organic traffic is still the highest quality. Most people know a sponsored post means it’s paid so they skip it. And if they don’t get what they need in the AIO, they’ll scroll down.”
Her – “I’d click a sponsored post.”
Me – “Okay, well I wouldn’t”
Her – “Well I would.”
Fortunately someone on her team interrupted at that point to say that they thought these were good results.
And while that was certainly an aggressive conversation, I get it. She chose to invest in organic SEO over paid SEO and they don’t move at the same speed. They actually kind of move in opposite speeds.
Putting in all the work and feeling like you still have to scroll forever (or wait) is not the cadence we’re used to in our fast-paced tech world.
But this is exactly why I think understanding what’s actually happening in the search results right now matters. So you can drown out the fear mongering, but also so you know the difference between “this isn’t working” and “this is working, it’s going to take time but we’re headed in the right direction”
So let’s talk about if AI overviews have killed SEO and what’s actually changed when it comes to content.
AI Overviews are the auto result at the top of Google when you do a search. These AI-generated answers use Google’s Gemini to give the searcher a quick answer via a quick sentence or a full breakdown.
It’s kind of like a mini page 1 within page 1 results.
The summary results then contain links or mentions that the someone can click through or investigate further.
I think it’s important to remember that Google was never for businesses. Google may seem to us like a Chaotically Neutral party but the algorithms and rules have always been for the searcher.
So if this gives searchers a faster, accurate result that doesn’t require a searcher to sift through pages of results, that’s a win for Google.
The down-in-the-dumps-hopeless question I know you want answered is, if this is taking away clicks, does any of it even matter?
Yes.
Change is changing and it’s doing so quickly. And it’s a lot. But it’s not game over.
People are still searching the traditional way, it’s just changing.
Zero clicks are changing SEO attribution and they’re changing how people search, but it’s not stopping people from getting to your website. Instead, by the time people get to your site they’ve likely already been in 6+ other places researching.
The more you show up in those other places, the better for you. And once someone does land on your site, they’re already well-informed. Now they’re looking for something different: confirmation.
Proof you’re trustworthy, proof you are who you say you are, and whatever’s left to finish making up their mind.
So in a way this changes nothing while low-key changing everything. Welcome to SEO!!
Let me start by saying these are not rules, they’re guidelines.
I cannot (in good faith) sit here and tell you 20 things to do without getting to know you first. Buy me a coffee first, girl.
So think about this (and SEO in general) like doing your taxes.
This is my favorite analogy: Like the government, Google already has an idea of what they want, but they’re going to make you do all the work and come with all of the receipts. I’m just the accountant piecing it all together.
By the way, Google’s official recommendation for optimizing for AI features like AI Overviews is to “apply the same foundational SEO best practices for AI features as you do for Google Search overall.”
That was a lot. And probably not that helpful on its own, because where do you actually start? Don’t worry, I’ve got you.
Pick your 5 most important pages, go through them first, then do the same for 5 of your best blog posts.
Check the basics:
Once you’ve gone through that list, pick one existing page to update rather than jumping straight to creating something new.
And here’s one you can do right now, for free: ask an AI tool a question about your industry, the kind your customer would actually ask. See who shows up – and if you do. Notice what story is being told and what page it’s pulling from. Do you have that information on your site?
You’re starting from a different place so your priorities are different.
If you get through that list and want a second set of eyes on it, that’s exactly what my SEO packages include.
There are two types of AI worth knowing the difference between: AI Overviews (in Google) and LLMs, tools like ChatGPT, Claude, or Perplexity. Within both, your brand can show up in one of two ways.
The kind of search happening usually tells you which one you’ll get.
These have existed in SEO for a while, it’s what’s usually filed under off-page or PR-type SEO.
AI didn’t invent this, but it’s gotten a lot better at pulling all of it together into one spot.
And even if you’re not getting clicks, it’s still important
Showing up in an AI Overview, in any form, means you’re getting real estate at the very top of the results, before the reader even has to click into anything else.
If your specific page is being used in an answer, that’s proof to the reader that you know what you’re talking about, and it hands them a direct way to find you.
And this is all before anyone even lands on your site.
Because AI Overviews often appear before the rest of the organic results now, showing up there, mention or citation, is good for your overall visibility even if it doesn’t come with a click attached.
Tone also matters here, and this is the part that catches people off guard. The LLMs are pulling in whatever’s already being said about your brand out in the world and condensing it into one answer.
If nobody’s talking about you online, you’re less likely to be mentioned at all, and there’s nothing for the AI to pull from.
If the conversation happening about you in third-party spaces, reviews, forums, articles, is negative, that’s going to be reflected back in how you’re described.
The more people are talking about your brand, and the more that conversation is positive, the more that works in your favor.
A brand mention in AI Overviews is a billboard advertisement. A citation is the billboard with your address, highway exit, and exact turn by turn instructions on how to get there.
I grew up in the Midwest, which meant any holiday or birthday involved at least a two-hour drive. That’s a lot of Indiana ‘highway’. Which meant a lot of billboards: strip clubs, Jesus can save you, anti-abortion shame speech, rest stops in fourteen miles.
None of those billboards got a click. But you remembered them. You could probably still describe half of them right now. Enough repetition that when the moment comes, you already know the name.
I know for small brands, this can feel frustrating, because our starting line is already further back. But there is a path forward, and you can catch up. It starts the same way it always has: be the kind of brand worth talking about, and show up enough places that the talking has somewhere to go.
Alright, enough chit-chat, let’s make a plan. Fill out the contact form and let me know what you’re thinking. Your excitement, your concerns, your hopes and dreams (your pet’s names?!).
We’ll schedule a no pressure discovery call to see if we’re a good fit. I promise to use normal-people words (no indecipherable word-salads here). It’s free, 30-ish minutes and I won’t hound you for weeks afterward — seriously, I don’t have time for that. First step, let’s see if this makes sense. Second step, let’s help you get found.